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75th Trombone
telnahvah (Guild Master) |
        
AReandal,
Okay, I'm going to half-contradict you here. I
think the reason Mechanical is the only age where the gun
comes with you is that it's the only age where the location of
the linking book on Myst allows the gun to be shown.
Now, in English: the linking books for Selenitic and
Channelwood are both inside, and the gun disappears when
you're inside. So is the Stoneship book, but you can't
even get to that one with the gun. The Mechanical book
is outside, though, so maybe that's why that's the only age
where the gun comes with you.
NOW, that being said,
that doesn't mean it's not significant or a clue that there's
another egg involved. I'm just sayin' it could be merely
a programming thing with no other significance.
One
other thought I had; I tried aiming it at the Mechanical
marker switch, waiting for it to fire, and then just
WAITING... ...I think I had an idea that firing a cannon
toward the gear might somehow summon the Black Ship or
something, heheh... ...nothing happened, of course. :-P
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Quote:
Quote: from 75th Trombone on 6:08 am on Aug. 10,
2001
I've extracted all the mp3's from the pera.dni
file that really got my attention as possibly belonging
to some sort of FPS game. I've archived them into
a zip file, which y'all can download by right-clicking here and choosing "Save Target As..."
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Greedy04.mp3
definitely sounds like some sort of gun shooting. Like a laser
gun, or a gun with a silencer.
Shorah,
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Zardoz
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I thought I recalled a
discussion on RG about the torsk gun and the Mechanical Age --
ring a bell with anyone? Anyway, what I remember is that
the topic came up in CC (this was reported in the RG
discussion) and a Cyantist basically said that it was a fluke,
that there was no significance to being able to take the torsk
gun into the that age. Maybe it wasn't CC, but that was
the conclusion I remember.
I feel better than James Brown. I feel better now.
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AReandal
seltahn
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I remember that thread
but didn't think everyone considered the matter closed. Like
the Mac MYST Masterpiece clue, a cyanists stated that clue was
only for those with that version of MYST. Why would Spyder
post that clue among realMYST Egg clues if it was only
for Mac MME? It doesn't make sense. Mac realMYST wasn't
realesed then. And still isn't. 
Anyway, I'm just brainstorming. um, which
allows you to share all ideas however farfetched. 
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75th Trombone
telnahvah (Guild Master) |
AReandal, remember:
that Mac Myst Masterpiece clue was given on April Fools' Day.
Assuming that that's significant at all, it could mean
one of two things:
1) That that specific clue is
bogus, having been given on April Fools' Day. That seems
pretty weak, though, as obvious it as it is. I feel that
it's much more likely...
2) That that clue was genuine
and made to make us slap our foreheads in realizing that all
that time we thought he was hinting at a realMYST egg, he was
actually hinting at a Mac MME egg. In this way, he kinda
set up his April Fools' joke in advance, and it would have a
"Ha ha, gotcha" effect.
Except, of course, for the
fact that no one has found that egg in either game.
I had one last brainstorm about the "Find the turned
logo" clue; y'know how in the pre-game animation it shows the
orb at the top of the mountain? Well, one of the symbols
looks like the orb at the top of the middle of three
mountains. So I tried THAT one in all four, then
clicking the lower-left bolt of the console, and nothing
happened. Y'all might try some stuff with that idea and
see what happens. *shrugs*
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"I don't know the
specific clues that Spyder gave, so I can't vouch for them
100%, but I would guess that if Spyder bothered to give clues
for Mac Myst Masterpiece that they'd lead somewhere."
RAWA's response.
Since no one has Mac Myst
Masterpiece, we can at least give THAT one up.
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AReandal
seltahn
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Maybe he means that
there is no such product named Mac MYST Masterpiece. That is
because MYST Masterpiece is a dual platform product like
EX|LE. urm, what does that say for Spyder's clue?
75th, you may be on to something with the turned logo
clue. I tried turning the logo in the fireplace but wasn't
sure what to do next (no bolts there). But I still think there
will be more patterns in the fireplace that start with the C
logo.
Put the C logo in and then turn it?? Then what?
never mind. 
::goes back to Zardoz site to reread Spyder's
clues::
Edit:
Where's Rocksunner?
(Edited by AReandal at 10:57 pm on Aug. 13,
2001)
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PC Michael
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the background |
Quote:
Quote: from AReandal on 11:50 pm on Aug. 13,
2001
That is because MYST Masterpiece is a dual
platform product like EX|LE.
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Are
you sure MystMasterpiece is a hybrid CD? I have it for
the PC and it doesn't run on my Mac...
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Jehon the Scribe 
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Nope, MME is NO hybrid
CD. There's a Mac version and a PC version.
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Chucker
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...and they're
technically quite different. I've heard that the Mac version
is a port of the PC version, which is a remake of the PC Myst
version, which is a port of the original Mac Myst version. So
you see... quite odd.
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AReandal
seltahn
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Quote:
Quote: from Jehon the Scribe on 4:34 am on Aug.
14, 2001
Nope, MME is NO hybrid CD. There's a Mac
version and a PC version.
| ooops!  Sorry for the confusion. duh.
Then what does
RAWA's statement mean?
A'Reandal
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75th Trombone
telnahvah (Guild Master) |
Um, it means that
more'n likely those clues help lead to somewhere we've not
been or something we've not seen.
I've wondered if the
long statements that Spyder made that yielded those clues
might not be clues themselves. For instance, "If your
ears are ready, listen. Think for two or three beats.
Will the loud effect open our door?" yields "USE IT FOR
ALL FOUR," but could the sentence itself mean something?
"Think for two or three beats" might refer to the
metronome on the rocketship. I had the thought that "the
loud effect" might refer to the YIMSN cannon. So far,
though, that's gotten me nowhere.
The sentences
themselves probably DON'T mean anything, but if we're really
that desperate to find the meaning of the extra date clues,
anything's worth a try...
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Danni
glotahn
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Hi!!!
Congrats
to all involved in solving *The YIMSN Egg*
Now I have to write something (sorry ) :
What if after we put the *C* into the
fireplace we put something like this:
OO[][][][]OO
OO[][][][]OO
[][][][][][][][]
OOO[][]OOO
OO[]OO[]OO
O[]OOOO[]O
A PLAYER!!!
Ok I'm crazy... a bit...
And now an
explanation why Ides/Brake-In didn't gave us an Egg.
1)We
are searching in the wrong place
2)If I/B-I is connected
to "pong" Egg then;
Ides of March=15
15 can mean 3
p.m.
We we start the game and look at the 3 o'clock
direction we see a boat.
Brake-In=Watergate
Watergate
can be a hint at the boat puzzle
The constelations are the
Myst's Watergate!
Boat, constelations = puzzle
constelations -> planeterium
The rest we know.
It seems that only Egg remaining in the game is
Huevo/Vika.
Why?
Let's check the clues: We had 6
main clues then the "MacMyst" clues.
In the last main clue
Spyder wrote that *one* remaing Egg needs more help. One that
means the YIMSN Egg.
But what about Huevo/Vika?
If this is the last clue that it can mean only one
thing.
We have all *triggers* for Huevo/Vika!
Triggers
are: Pong, Doughnut, YIMSN, Torsk then Gas, finally
Face/Cyanegg Egg and then the RIVEN image.
Dan'ni
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PC Michael
remember
the background |
Spyder said:
"There is only one more clue for the eggs that I have
started."
There are probably (hopefully) other
eggs, that he just hasn't started yet.
Great
insight on that Ides/Break-In clue!
(Edited by PC Michael at 3:06 pm on Aug. 15,
2001)
- PCMichael
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75th Trombone
telnahvah (Guild Master) |
*puts hand to Dan'ni's
forehead*
...You feelin' okay there, Dan'ni?
Methinks thou doth theorize conspiracies too much.
;-)
Besides which, aren't Huevo and Vika just
AVI's from which pics can be extracted? I mean, I know
that it'd be cool if we could find those pics in the *game,*
but seeing's how we already have them from people who've
hacked them, the only thing left would be to decipher more
clues on crystal shapes/sequences/colors in the Rime viewer,
and frankly, my take on that is "big deal." Spyder might
not even go to the trouble to hint at them if we've already
found them.
In any case, if there's anything left,
it's bigger than decoding pics for the Rime viewer, or Spyder
wouldn't've left it for last. I'm still hopin' that
there's a way to launch the rocketship, personally.
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Danni
glotahn
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PC Michael:
Yes
Spyder wrote: "There is only one more clue for the eggs that I
have started." but in my personal opinion this means
"There's only one more clue of the series of clues that i have
started for one Egg."
75th Trombone:
Well so far
the last Egg is Huevo/Vika
I'm also hoping for something more, but I'm even
a bit sceptical about this m3dplayer thingy being an Egg.
However if I'm wrong then remeber that I was wrong after you
find this Avatar Egg.
Zardoz you're good at finding savegame
references to Eggs in the game, do you see any other Egg
references? And what about The Torsk Egg? I don't remember
anyone finding SG references for this Egg... Tell me if it was
actually found.
So based on the knowledge of SG
references of the Eggs there seems to be only one Egg left...
However if I'm wrong...
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Aloys
Administrator
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what) |
sorry about this, but
guys really crack me up!
I am always amazed at how far theories can go
*sits and open a bag of pop-corn*
One thing about Huevo and Vika tough there Is a way to
get them in game.
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AReandal
seltahn
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Quote:
Quote: from Danni on 11:25 am on Aug. 15,
2001
What if after we put the *C* into the fireplace
we put something like this:
OO[][][][]OO
OO[][][][]OO
[][][][][][][][]
OOO[][]OOO
OO[]OO[]OO
O[]OOOO[]O
A PLAYER!!!
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something similar but it didn't work. I put the C in then some
rocket ship shapes. It seemed the next logical shape after
Logo O and Logo +. I didn't try all the shapes possible
so someone may want to try again.
Hey, Aloys. Turn
around.  
*ahem* urm, sorry, *snicker*
I want to hear
Aloys' theories.
A'Reandal
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Danni
glotahn
(Beginner) |
Well the most logical
step would be
O then +
I was thinking that maybe if there is
anything left that has to do with Myst Mayhem... maybe it has
to be done in the planeterium (Apr 1 2000)?
Aloys tell
us your theories! I would also like to hear them
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Aloys
Administrator
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I don't have any
theories on this, YOU have became the realMyst specialists now
i don't have any theories, I
only have secret infos..
(Edited by Aloys at
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lontahn
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It's OK, Aloys. I know
how strong the urge must be to forge your own Editing Post
signature, just in order to gain some attention although you
have no more secrets now that everyone knows about Vika/Huevo.
*pats Aloys on the head twice*
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Zardoz
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Dan'ni, good to hear
from you!
Quote:
Quote: from Danni on 2:05 pm on Aug. 15,
2001
Zardoz you're good at finding savegame
references to Eggs in the game, do you see any other Egg
references? And what about The Torsk Egg? I don't
remember anyone finding SG references for this Egg...
Tell me if it was actually found.
So based on
the knowledge of SG references of the Eggs there seems
to be only one Egg left... However if I'm wrong...
Dan'ni
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Great,
I'll go to my grave known as that guy who was obsessed with
the savegame files. Got a question about realMyst
savegame files? Just ask Zardoz!!
I haven't
really found anything that refers to the torsk gun.
HOWEVER, I have found something else marginally
interesting. I mentioned in a different thread (on the
dll files) that there is another mysterious reference I
thought related to the Cyan/Face egg: TheBigC. It turns
out that this in fact refers to a single action: Putting
the Cyan logo ("C" ) into the fireplace. I found this
out by testing -- you guessed it! -- some savegame files.
Every savegame file has a section near the beginning
that contains references to the "state" of the game -- what's
turned on or off, whether the player has won or not, whether
doors are open or closed, and so forth. I discovered
that this section also includes a reference to the YIMSN gun
if that egg is currently triggered. (It does not,
as far as I can tell, contain references to other eggs but I
may check later.) (EDIT: Actually, I forgot to mention
that this section does have a reference to being gassed --
"Buzzed" is the actual reference -- but that it disappears
after some period of time.)
Anyway, I started with a
game in which I hadn't put anything egg-related into the
fireplace (I had won the game, but no eggs). In that
savegame, there is no reference to TheBigC or YIMSN. I
then put in the C and the plus, and then looked in the
resulting savegame file. I found references to both
TheBigC and YourInMySightsNow in this "state of the game"
section. I then turned YIMSN off (you can do that by
entering any other pattern into the fireplace), and the YIMSN
reference disappeared but TheBigC reference did not. So
I went back to the first savegame, entered only the
logo ("C" ), and then saved the game at that point. Sure
enough, TheBigC turns up in the savegame.
OK,
ZARDOZ, WHAT THE HECK DOES ALL THAT MEAN?!?!?!?
What it means, I think, is that the Cyan logo in the
fireplace has some importance on its own, or it may play a
role in lots of different things, or it may play a role just
in the two eggs, or whatever.
This brings me back to
my original theory, which Aloys has amply supported: If
we propose enough silly theories in very loud posts WITH LOTS
OF CAPITAL LETTERS, Spyder may take pity on us and give us
more clues.
(Edited by Zardoz at
10:54 am on Aug. 18, 2001)
I feel better than James Brown. I feel better now.
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Zardoz, I think I know
the reason for TheBigC still being there when you put it in
the fireplace. (I kind of understand what you were talking
about.)
Remember that putting in the "C" in the
fireplace is also the first part of the donut egg. When you
only put in the "C" and nothing else and look at the game
file, it's there because it's the first part of two eggs. The
YourInMySights now egg and the donut one (not sure what the
exact name of that is).
Hope that makes sense.
And did anyone ever figure anything else out about
those rat turd things in the coding?
Gandy
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PC Michael
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HMMMM.
VERY INTERESTING. IS THIS LOUD ENOUGH FOR
SPYDER TO HEAR?
I don't know why, but I have a feeling
Spyder will be back very soon. *hears everyone wondering
if I'm Spyder* Well I'm not.
What's that? Gotta
go. 
- PCMichael
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